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Question Reader: The The next question comes from Bernard Ho and reads, how is AIU going with securing remaining binding offtake agreements? Is GE still in the pipeline?
Daryl Kosubo, Managing Director and CEO, Arafura: Yeah. Did you would you like to talk to that one, Peter?
Peter Sherrington, CFO, Arafura: Yeah. No problems. So in terms of securing the remaining offtake, the issue is not so much around the the requirement for the offtake. And I think some of the events that we’ve seen over the last couple of months since The US tariff announcements have probably reinforced that view that there is a need for a a non China or or a supply diversification. So I I think that the challenge for us is that we are trying to link the the the remaining offtake to strategic equity.
And we’re going to hold pretty pretty hard on that because we believe that, you know, the the NDPR offtake is strategic, and we’re going to link the equity to that. And we’ll we’ll we’ll stick to that. That’s probably the challenge that presents to us around securing offtake. The second part of the question, so we’re confident we will get that, but we are probably making our our our our work around getting the offtake more challenging by linking that equity to it. But it’s critical to the funding strategy which we’ve set out.
In terms of GE, we we have, you know, an ongoing relationship with GE. We we have seen that, you know, for example, GE has probably been not gaining market share in the offshore wind turbine business. That is making it difficult for them to make a commitment now to offtake, but we remain engaged with them on looking at ways that they may be able to commit to offtake as we start to close out the the final offtake group. So whilst whilst we don’t see them as one of the groups that we will be engaging with on on the equity opportunities, we still engage with them on on offtake.
Question Reader: There are a number of questions coming through regarding the alternative funding solutions or potential alternative funding solutions. So I’m just gonna lump them into to one question. Is there any more information you can share about the potential joint venture, and is the structure likely to be a fifty fifty joint venture?
Daryl Kosubo, Managing Director and CEO, Arafura: Yeah. So I can’t share anymore at this point. Right? So I’m I’m very mindful that there’s a need for additional information. And as soon as we can share it, we will share it.
The reason for flagging it, though, is because in the past, we’ve been talking about our equity strategy, and we haven’t specifically flagged the JV structure. But but that is a real alternative, But it’s too early for us to comment anymore at this stage, but we’re mindful that there is a strong strong desire to name more. And as soon as we can, we will share it.
Question Reader: The next question comes from Paul Stevens and reads, is Arafura seriously considering considering dysprosium and terbium geochemical processing capability?
Daryl Kosubo, Managing Director and CEO, Arafura: Good question. So so our current CapEx does not include that. We’ve got processing capability locked in through third party to to take the heavies to a oxide, but that is an option that we’ll always be open to and always be be looking at. Peter, do you wanna make any additional comments to that?
Peter Sherrington, CFO, Arafura: Yeah. So in in the short term, as as Daryl mentioned, we we we see, you know, some third party processes and they’re in the right jurisdictions who have the ability to process that material, and we’ve had engagement with those groups around separating the DY and TB because we do get inquiries around those particular products. And again, we see them as strategic. And whilst they are not significant in terms of revenue, we probably see them as being important in terms of locking in those final off takers and and equity providers. Yeah.
But as as Daryl mentioned, at present, our our CapEx does not include the scope of separating those products. But I think ultimately, it’s something we would look to try and work through ourselves. But I think we would be up for our first challenge of producing NDPR on spec and and rely on those tollers as an interim measure.
Question Reader: The next question comes from Roberto Versace of Versace Capital. Are there any concerns the change in the change of government and whether the current government funding may be withdrawn?
Daryl Kosubo, Managing Director and CEO, Arafura: Good question, Roberto. So, so we’re not concerned about a potential change in government. I mean, parties are supportive. The opposition have said that they would support funding that we’ve already received. I would note that the current government, has, you know, very welcome their support for the production tax, incentive.
That is that is helpful. And the current government has also raised the strategic reserve, and that that still has to be worked through on the assumption that they get get reelected. But if you if you take a step back, the Nolan’s project creates significant employment, significant downstream manufacturing, across Australia. And consequently, we enjoy the support of both both parties at both the Northern Territory and the federal level. So we’re not we’re not we’re not concerned.
Question Reader: The next question comes from Steven Darrington and reads, is the proposed strategic stockpile likely to be associated with further government equity joint venture opportunities?
Daryl Kosubo, Managing Director and CEO, Arafura: It’s too early to to say. The Australian government has really just outlined at a very high level what they intend to do with the strategic reserve and that they will enter into a consultation process, and and we look forward to participating in that.
Question Reader: The next question comes from Steven Allen and reads, you mentioned retendering where appropriate. Can you advise what the potential criteria for doing that would be?
Daryl Kosubo, Managing Director and CEO, Arafura: Yeah. Good question. So, Steven so it’s the the environment is a little bit different today than it was when we got the original tenders and we went for a process and selected our preferred tender. It’s we’ve seen, you know, our projects pulled back, some operations, you know, nickel, cease or going to going to cease, and that’s created some additional capacity in the market. And we’ve had some some tenders come back to us and said that if if there is an opportunity, they would like to retender.
So we will be selective in retendering where we think there is a benefit, mindful that we also don’t want to to delay our project schedule as well.
Question Reader: The next question comes from Andrew Ballard and reads, the Australian government supports stated interest free loans of up to a billion dollars. Is management engaging with the government on this opportunity?
Daryl Kosubo, Managing Director and CEO, Arafura: Peter, do you have any comments on that?
Peter Sherrington, CFO, Arafura: No. I’m aware of the facility that the shareholder’s referring to. Sorry, Daryl. I mean, obviously, we’re engaged with the government on on on on debt financing, but, you know, there there are some concessional interest rates on the facilities that we’ve secured. Some of them are referenced to commercial rates as well, but they’re all on on, you know, interest payable on amortization basis.
So, yeah, I’m I’m can’t provide any comment. We can look into it further and and provide some further comment if there’s something that we we’ve missed.
Daryl Kosubo, Managing Director and CEO, Arafura: It’d be great to if you didn’t mind sending through some details on that. If if there’s something we’re not aware of, kind of surprise would surprise me, but we would be very interested in pursuing that.
Question Reader: The next question comes from Nick Stott and reads, is phase two a part of any offtake JV and or equity negotiations?
Daryl Kosubo, Managing Director and CEO, Arafura: Good good question. So so so phase two is obviously a draw card because it presents a significant growth opportunity for any any party. However, given that we’re not talking about a decision for phase two, it’s excluded from any binding agreements, but it’s obviously a draw card for investors and potential JV partners.