Arafura - General Discussion

Post Quarterly....

Well looks like the SP took a hit today, which is not surprising after the average quarterly and the not 'potential' delay in FID?

While there is no CR this time around it seems ARU is having a hard time making deals still... and while the JV is interesting it seems like a bit of a bandaid for the delay.

Im wondering about this slide tho, I get all the talk about delays, but then this should be updated...

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Hi @patarnoster

I think the slide has no dates. it is just a weekly timeline...that begins when FID is achieved.

I know there are people out there saying that ARU are having a hard time locking in the final equity and this JV is just a way to motivate them into signing up asap. But I disagree with this line of thinking. This type of approach by ARU management/board is almost fraud...and would expose them to legal issues. So I don't think they could make it up. Plus for it to be announced to the public, there must be some type of substance behind it. So someone/govt/company has said, i'm willing to do a JV with you, on these approx terms, would that be viable...and obviously those terms are pretty good for current shareholders....so they have to look at it.

DC also said the number of current parties wanting to commit equity is more than they need. So it sounded like they are very close, but now an even better option (the JV) has come up.....

So my thinking goes...well why did it come up now? It has to be someone new (ie US Govt)....or it is someone that realises they are putting so much into this....why not JV and get more control (so Aust Govt or Posco/Korea).

So my take this is actually a pretty good long term outcome for ARU.

But there were lots of people/traders betting on FID being done before late July...and making a quick buck...so it is likely those are the sellers. I actually think the SP has stood up quite well. I'll be interested to see the short position from today (being retail we will see in next week).
 
Thanks John, I thought it was Months (Hence the 4 month engineering ramp up, so x 4 boxes?)

So FID looks to be in May / June month?, the line being the release of this quarterly.

I agree, ARU using JV as a trick would be fraud, and thats too far for a company with government contracts, too many far reaching consequences. JV would be the best case scenario and I feel like whispers of this started in January.

Looks like short term pain for a good long term outlook, I'm sure shareholders are a bit confused because the timing is peculiar.
 
Thanks John, I thought it was Months (Hence the 4 month engineering ramp up, so x 4 boxes?)

So FID looks to be in May / June month?, the line being the release of this quarterly.

I agree, ARU using JV as a trick would be fraud, and thats too far for a company with government contracts, too many far reaching consequences. JV would be the best case scenario and I feel like whispers of this started in January.

Looks like short term pain for a good long term outlook, I'm sure shareholders are a bit confused because the timing is peculiar.
Sorry...yeah it is months. But what i mean it is just a month....and not a specific month. So whenever FID occurs.....that is when Month 1 starts. I don't know why they put negative months on there. It will happen any time until Q2 2026.

It will be interesting to see what happens to the SP if the JV gets legs. Because at some point, the funds/businesses looking at putting equity in, who might fall out of the running, presumably are then free from their restrictions regarding onmarket buying....and might start buying on the market. So we may see some buying momentum.

Also if there are much less shares (obviously with some less revenue under the JV)....but the value per share should go up. All depends on the deal struck under the JV.
 
DC also said the number of current parties wanting to commit equity is more than they need. So it sounded like they are very close, but now an even better option (the JV) has come up.....
John, I just want to clarify this statement from dc. So basically fid is delayed by company choice (because there are more than enough equity ) but because there are better funding alternatives i.e jv so the company chose to delay the fid.

Therefore if the jv turns to be a pear shape, will the existing equity commitment still available? If so the fid is inevitable..

With the Labor initial 200m critical minerals acquisition plus additional 1 billion. Lets assume Labor returns, how long does the parliamentary approval will take.

Share price seems okay closen at 19.5
 

Last Line

Despite the optimism, one Australian analyst expressed doubt that Australia could solve the problem for the U.S. because the refinery processing of rare earth metals will still be controlled by China, at least for the near term.

This is why ARU exists.
 
John, I just want to clarify this statement from dc. So basically fid is delayed by company choice (because there are more than enough equity ) but because there are better funding alternatives i.e jv so the company chose to delay the fid.

Therefore if the jv turns to be a pear shape, will the existing equity commitment still available? If so the fid is inevitable..

With the Labor initial 200m critical minerals acquisition plus additional 1 billion. Lets assume Labor returns, how long does the parliamentary approval will take.

Share price seems okay closen at 19.5
Agreed on the above, FID delayed by choice. The share price will do what it does, do note a poster on HC said a certain Japanese fund? is buying up since January.

Labors rare earth play is very important to them, its the show pony of Labors economic revival, so it will move fairly quickly post election IMO.

(Assuming they win at least a minority govt)
 
John, I just want to clarify this statement from dc. So basically fid is delayed by company choice (because there are more than enough equity ) but because there are better funding alternatives i.e jv so the company chose to delay the fid.

Therefore if the jv turns to be a pear shape, will the existing equity commitment still available? If so the fid is inevitable..

With the Labor initial 200m critical minerals acquisition plus additional 1 billion. Lets assume Labor returns, how long does the parliamentary approval will take.

Share price seems okay closen at 19.5


In regards to the reason for the FID delay...i think there are a few things:

1 - The Aust Govt buying our product....DC said that this will take time....here is the quote:
Question Reader: The next question comes from Steven Darrington and reads, is the proposed strategic stockpile likely to be associated with further government equity joint venture opportunities?
Daryl Kosubo, Managing Director and CEO, Arafura: It’s too early to to say. The Australian government has really just outlined at a very high level what they intend to do with the strategic reserve and that they will enter into a consultation process, and and we look forward to participating in that.

2 - The other part is someone has decided they want to JV....so that will take time and MUST be considered due to the much better outcome for shareholders (ie they would be negligent in their duty to shareholders)...here is the quote that says they are close to securing the equity with the original strategy:
Question Reader: There are a number of questions coming through regarding the alternative funding solutions or potential alternative funding solutions. So I’m just gonna lump them into to one question. Is there any more information you can share about the potential joint venture, and is the structure likely to be a fifty fifty joint venture?
Daryl Kosubo, Managing Director and CEO, Arafura: Yeah. So I can’t share anymore at this point. Right? So I’m I’m very mindful that there’s a need for additional information. And as soon as we can share it, we will share it.vThe reason for flagging it, though, is because in the past, we’ve been talking about our equity strategy, and we haven’t specifically flagged the JV structure. But but that is a real alternative, But it’s too early for us to comment anymore at this stage, but we’re mindful that there is a strong strong desire to name more. And as soon as we can, we will share it.
and
Question Reader: Thanks, Hayley. The first question comes from Brett Smith of B and L Smith Superfund and reads, what level of assurance or confidence can you give shareholders that FID will happen before the end of the calendar year?
Daryl Kosubo, Managing Director and CEO, Arafura: Yeah. So let me take that one, Brett. So that’s probably the million dollar question. Right? So so let me share with you what we’re doing around that.
Right? And you can you can see this in the introductory, comments. So there’s a there’s a few parts to it. So so firstly, we’ve engaged with multiple cornerstone investors more than what we need to secure, the equity that that’s required, and that gives us optionality. That gives us multiple pathways to get there.
And with that, that gives us confidence to to secure FID. And, and also by having different options, it gives us options to choose what is in the best interest of our shareholders in a long term, company. We’re confident of achieving fit for that for that very, very reason. If you look at, some of the geopolitical events, that has raised awareness around the importance of rare earths to the manufacture of permanent magnets and why you need permanent magnets. I know everyone on this call has been aware of that, but I think that awareness across the globe hasn’t been there.
But that awareness is increasing rapidly, and that is very helpful for us. The other thing that we’ve gotta take into account, though, is that many investors are, I’m going to say, somewhat sitting on their hands waiting to see what happens with this potential trade war. So what we so the way we’re playing this is we’re engaging with that cornerstone investors more than what we need. We’re using the opportunity of this increased awareness of the importance of to engage with other parties so they’re ready to come in so that as the market settles down, we’re ready to move. Long story short, we’re confident of achieving FID because of that engagement. And as we achieve milestones, we will share that with the market so that you can see the progress that we’re making.
3 - The party wanting to JV may be coming in cold..and need time for DD etc....here is the quote i'm speculating on:
Question Reader: The next question comes from Bernard Ho and reads, with the Trump presidency, do you see the US government potentially being part of any equity funding and or grant funding given their national security concerns?
Daryl Kosubo, Managing Director and CEO, Arafura: Bernard, so, good question. Right? So, again, I probably can’t say too much, but but what I can say is that as we look for a fully funded solution and the if you like, The US is growing attention to securing warehouse supply, we’re certainly exploring avenues around that. But there’s nothing that’s at a point that we can we can be definitive about at this point.
From this and his body language.....it felt like to me USA is coming for us.


Just looking at the time line for labor to get binding agreement in place to buy product...it would take about 6 months. BUT....i think for projects that are 'shovel ready' they could have an accelerated program. So maybe 1-2 months?

StageDescriptionEstimated Timeframe
1. Post-Election Transition & Policy SetupAfter winning, Labor would need to confirm this policy in the budget, appoint a delivery team (likely via Austrade, Export Finance Australia, or a new unit), and allocate guidelines.1–2 months
2. Program Design & Industry ConsultationDefine eligibility (e.g., which minerals, project stage, ESG criteria), delivery mechanisms (e.g., offtake contracts, stockpiling, price floors), and risk management.1–2 months
3. Tender or Direct NegotiationEither an open tender process or strategic direct negotiations with advanced-stage projects (e.g., Arafura, Hastings, Northern Minerals).2–3 months
4. Finalisation of ContractsDue diligence, negotiation, ministerial sign-off, and execution of legally binding offtake or purchase contracts.1–2 months


If I was ARU....i would just be using this as a negotiations stategy to drive the off take parties to sign asap. Or govt will buy it.
 



This is why ARU exists.

I'm not sure what the author meant in that quote....that we are not refining to an oxide and are reliant on china to process? That is clearly not true. Or he could mean we are reliant on the China pricing? Again...this is changing fast...and not true.

So yeah...strange.
 
Agreed on the above, FID delayed by choice. The share price will do what it does, do note a poster on HC said a certain Japanese fund? is buying up since January.

Labors rare earth play is very important to them, its the show pony of Labors economic revival, so it will move fairly quickly post election IMO.

(Assuming they win at least a minority govt)


Wow..wonder which fund? Maybe they are the JV partner?


Yeah...I think for shovel ready projects...they will fast track the buying of the minerals from the fund....probably ARU and ILU as the first cabs of the labor rare earth cab rank.
 
I'm not sure what the author meant in that quote....that we are not refining to an oxide and are reliant on china to process? That is clearly not true. Or he could mean we are reliant on the China pricing? Again...this is changing fast...and not true.

So yeah...strange.
I think its both, the writer (who has a PHD) is saying all this REE investment is great, but until you can refine outside of China its not worth anything, that my take away,
 
Instinet, ill dig around more, see what i can find, so far the below countries the operate in.


Instinet, LLC is a member of SIPC.

Instinet Canada Limited, Member – Canadian Investor Protection Fund.

Instinet Europe Limited is authorized and regulated by the UK Financial Conduct Authority.

Instinet Pacific Limited is authorized and regulated by the Securities and Futures Commission of Hong Kong.

Instinet Australia Pty Limited (ACN: 131 253 686 AFSL No: 327834) is regulated by the Australian Securities & Investment Commission.

Instinet Singapore Services Private Limited is authorized and regulated by the Monetary Authority of Singapore and is a trading member of The Singapore Exchange Securities Trading Private Limited and a clearing member of The Central Depository (Pte) Ltd.
 
Wow..wonder which fund? Maybe they are the JV partner?


Yeah...I think for shovel ready projects...they will fast track the buying of the minerals from the fund....probably ARU and ILU as the first cabs of the labor rare earth cab rank.
Aru did mention in contract negotiation with Japanese and European for about 23?? tonnes ndpr. The magnet producers in Japan are Hitachi and tdk

But the likelihood of GE is possible
 
I think alot of institutions jsut play with Aussie stocks.....also maybe they know that FID is coming...and this is the last shake of the tree and flush out all those weak retail hands?

The flip side....they know something to the downside....but I doubt it. Can't be a mini cap raise....DC said they had reorganised their operation to get them through to Feb 2026....so can't be that. Aust govt isn't going to back out of it...so can't be that.

Feel just like the funds....doing a classic Monday tree shake.
 
I think alot of institutions jsut play with Aussie stocks.....also maybe they know that FID is coming...and this is the last shake of the tree and flush out all those weak retail hands?

The flip side....they know something to the downside....but I doubt it. Can't be a mini cap raise....DC said they had reorganised their operation to get them through to Feb 2026....so can't be that. Aust govt isn't going to back out of it...so can't be that.

Feel just like the funds....doing a classic Monday tree shake.
Just saw it pop back to 0.18 so you may be right on the tree shake, the other side is that most of the sale and buy side is all instos.

The would be very little real buyers there.

FID is coming, Govt Back secured, USA doing USA things, nothing has changed I guess, I would love to see the broker data at the end of this week, it may tell a story.
 
This whole China/USA deal...is months away at best. And it actually will not matter for the RE sector.

USA will continue to pump money into the western RE sector...because they know they can't rely on China (or any one country).

However, much of the market will see this ChinaUSA deal as a negative...and there will be trading opportunities...but in the medium and longer term...the RE Market will be bullish.
 
This whole China/USA deal...is months away at best. And it actually will not matter for the RE sector.

USA will continue to pump money into the western RE sector...because they know they can't rely on China (or any one country).

However, much of the market will see this ChinaUSA deal as a negative...and there will be trading opportunities...but in the medium and longer term...the RE Market will be bullish.
The announcement is 90 days reduction in tarifs to each side.

US, China to temporarily lower some tariffs for 90 daysBeijing to cut tariffs on US goods to 10% from 125%Washington to reduce duties on Chinese goods to 30% from 145%

Not great short term at all, still has some percentages but this all may reduce, maybe stay longterm.


Couple of thoughts below...

CategoryEffect
Near-term market sentimentNegative – narrative weakens, risk appetite may fall
Strategic value of NolansStill valid, but urgency now in question
Equity or JV timingCould be delayed further as parties “wait and see”
Share price pressureLikely adds to near-term downside pressure already underway
 
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